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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby lazarusr » Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:17 pm

jonb wrote:A Master Compact Service manual and he stoll couldn't get it working, tut tut...

All it needs is a BASIC ROM?

It’s not the Master Compact Service Manual. It’s actually the RetroClinic version which is only £4.95 new.

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Re: LOLPRICE

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby MatthewThompson » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:34 am

Is this person for real ?

It's a copied disc, not original, and they think it's worth £30.00 and it's a rare item !!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBC-Micro-Gam ... SwkzhZ1od8

why would anyone want this ?

just noticed £30.00 is actually the reserve price !!!

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby geraldholdsworth » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:42 am

MatthewThompson wrote:It's a copied disc, not original, and they think it's worth £30.00 and it's a rare item !!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBC-Micro-Gam ... SwkzhZ1od8

It is actually illegal and should not even be listed. Besides, if you want a copy of Zalaga, you can get it for free at Stairway To Hell.
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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby jonb » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:08 pm

geraldholdsworth wrote:
MatthewThompson wrote:It's a copied disc, not original, and they think it's worth £30.00 and it's a rare item !!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBC-Micro-Gam ... SwkzhZ1od8

It is actually illegal and should not even be listed. Besides, if you want a copy of Zalaga, you can get it for free at Stairway To Hell.


It's illegal because it's copyrighted? So how is it legal for it to be free on STH?

:lol:

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby geraldholdsworth » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:13 pm

jonb wrote:It's illegal because it's copyrighted? So how is it legal for it to be free on STH?

Actually, as far as I can tell, all the archive on STH should not be there as it is all copyrighted. However, most owners of the IPs aren't bothered. The same goes for the archives on this forum. They are there; the IP owner may, or may not, know they are there; but they just choose to ignore it, for whatever reason they have.

Selling a copy of a game is something else - this goes against the Ebay rules for a start.

On the Repton Resource Page, I do not make available disc images of the various Repton games because, a - Superior have asked me not to, and b - they are available on STH anyway. I can't even make available the Repton 3 add ons (ATWIFS, LOR, RTT) converted for the Commodore 64 version, but I can make available a tool which will do the job (the scenarios that are on my page have been put on with the full knowledge, and OK, of Richard Hanson).
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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby MatthewThompson » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:23 am

Did somebody contact this seller by any chance? as the auction has now ended, unsold.

The seller also added an extra bit on the item description saying that "I have been informed by another ebay user that people can get copies of the game
and put them on floppy disc. I can assure anybody that this is a copy I made in 1984" !

So what makes him think his copy is worth £30.00 ?

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby Boydie » Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:31 pm

MatthewThompson wrote:So what makes him think his copy is worth £30.00 ?


Simple! It's in its original cardboard case (complete with authentic clippings from magazines). Just be thankful it's not in cellophane or he'd be asking £45.

Can anyone tell what's written on the disc label? I'm pretty sure it doesn't say "Zalaga".

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby steve3000 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:39 pm

MatthewThompson wrote:The seller also added an extra bit on the item description saying that "I have been informed by another ebay user that people can get copies of the game
and put them on floppy disc. I can assure anybody that this is a copy I made in 1984" !

So what makes him think his copy is worth £30.00 ?

Well, clearly because it's an authentic original copy, and not one of those worthless modern copies that everyone has...???! [-X #-o

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby flaxcottage » Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:44 pm

I've hundreds of 'original' copies from BITD. :lol:
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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby lazarusr » Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:45 pm

What would happen to its value if the disk was reformatted today and then the same data saved back to it?

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby Lardo Boffin » Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:54 pm

lazarusr wrote:What would happen to its value if the disk was reformatted today and then the same data saved back to it?


Oohhh. That’s up there with the question about a tree falling over in the woods!

Maybe it has value because the data on that disc is 30 years old? New data won’t have matured as nicely and will have that new car smell.
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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby lazarusr » Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:09 pm

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby paulv » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:26 pm

I know it's not a bad looking A300 series keyboard that probably just needs a good clean but....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acorn-Archimedes-keyboard-/172971638895

I'm pretty sure I've seen entire systems sell for less than this keyboard alone :-o

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby JonC » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:51 pm

paulv wrote:I know it's not a bad looking A300 series keyboard that probably just needs a good clean but....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acorn-Archimedes-keyboard-/172971638895

I'm pretty sure I've seen entire systems sell for less than this keyboard alone :-o

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Wow, I have 3 in a drawer.

Time to give 'em a clean! :lol:
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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby flaxcottage » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:21 pm

£150! WT(ASCII code 70) :shock: :shock:
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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby BrianR. » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:44 pm

Just seen this

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-5-25 ... SwalpZyAy7

50 quid for a single 5.25" floppy disk? He's having a laugh, surely. I paid less than that for a floppy DRIVE last month.

I also recently bought 20 Memorex disks, DS/DD, sealed in original packaging for £33, and that price included postage from the USA.

The seller could argue that HIS disk is 'genuine vintage', but then they ALL are, as none have been made for nearly 30 years.

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby Boydie » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:46 pm

If the disc label is correct, the software on it was originally distributed by its author for the cost of the media.
Even when considering the past 30+ years, that’s still about a fifty-fold mark-up!

I’ve got a couple of hundred of these knocking around at home. Do I need to increase my home insurance? Some are genuine 1970s.

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby crj » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:46 am

Boydie wrote:Do I need to increase my home insurance?

You jest, but...

Domestic insurance policies tend to offer new-for-old replacement on electronics. I'm far from clear how that interacts with retrocomputing.

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby jonb » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:15 am

That seller has some odd cr@p in his other items list. For example:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Shap ... SwTA9X56yf

:shock:

Still, gotta try it on I suppose!

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby Lardo Boffin » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:26 am

BrianR. wrote:Just seen this

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-5-25 ... SwalpZyAy7

50 quid for a single 5.25" floppy disk? He's having a laugh, surely. I paid less than that for a floppy DRIVE last month.

I also recently bought 20 Memorex disks, DS/DD, sealed in original packaging for £33, and that price included postage from the USA.

The seller could argue that HIS disk is 'genuine vintage', but then they ALL are, as none have been made for nearly 30 years.


Maybe it has a copy of Zalaga on it? :lol:

I sometimes wonder about people that do this and have the following conclusions:-

1) They are genuinely deluded about its value
2) They are too lazy / stupid to research it’s probable value
3) They hope other people are too lazy / stupid to research its value

I can’t really think of any other reasons.
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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby BrianR. » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:05 am

I think it's probably about 10% of reason 1, and 90% reason 3.

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby sirbod » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:06 am

I see yet another copy of Arc Elite just sold for ~£150 on eBay. Legal copies of the game are free to download from various sources, so why do people keep paying so much, essentially for a manual (or two in the case of the Gold version)?

I'd understand if it was a rare title, but Arc Elite sold more copies than any other game besides Zarch. It certainly reappears on eBay more than any other Arc title. My only guess is that it's collectors that aren't necessarily Archimedes owners artificially inflating the price.

BBC Elite however...you can't give them away. I have various versions, including 2nd copro and couldn't even sell them for £10! Speaking of which, I must get around to listing all the BBC stuff I have on here, so you folk can taken them off my hands...for a donation back to JASPP of course :)

In general, most Archimedes titles are worth face value only at around £5-£10, with rarer ones up to the £30 mark. Why "retro" sellers keep relisting the same titles for £39.99 year on year is beyond me.

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby Lardo Boffin » Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:14 am

sirbod wrote:I see yet another copy of Arc Elite just sold for ~£150 on eBay. Legal copies of the game are free to download from various sources, so why do people keep paying so much, essentially for a manual (or two in the case of the Gold version)?

I'd understand if it was a rare title, but Arc Elite sold more copies than any other game besides Zarch. It certainly reappears on eBay more than any other Arc title. My only guess is that it's collectors that aren't necessarily Archimedes owners artificially inflating the price.

BBC Elite however...you can't give them away. I have various versions, including 2nd copro and couldn't even sell them for £10! Speaking of which, I must get around to listing all the BBC stuff I have on here, so you folk can taken them off my hands...for a donation back to JASPP of course :)

In general, most Archimedes titles are worth face value only at around £5-£10, with rarer ones up to the £30 mark. Why "retro" sellers keep relisting the same titles for £39.99 year on year is beyond me.


Put me down for the co proc version of Elite for £10 please!!! [-o<
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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby sirbod » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:25 am

Lardo Boffin wrote:Put me down for the co proc version of Elite for £10 please!!! [-o<

I wondered how long it would be before someone made that offer :lol:

Everything I have may already be gone, but I will list anything remaining in the For Sale section. Just remember that any money I receive will be going back into JASPP, to purchase games from eBay that the project requires, so it's all going to a good cause so to speak...not my pocket.

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby Lardo Boffin » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:09 pm

:roll:
sirbod wrote:
Lardo Boffin wrote:Put me down for the co proc version of Elite for £10 please!!! [-o<

I wondered how long it would be before someone made that offer :lol:

You mean you dont have one? Shucks. :(
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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby crj » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:38 pm

jonb wrote:Still, gotta try it on I suppose!

You think that's bad? A previous employer discovered one of its brochures being sold on eBay. It was only two years old, and naturally we'd given them away at the time. We rummaged in a cupboard and found several dozen more, in pristine condition.

We briefly contemplated selling some old pairs of the CEO's socks, with certificates of authenticity...

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby paulv » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:34 am

In the wake of the A300 series £150 keyboard....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acorn-Archimedes-keyboard-from-a-Archimedes-410-but-may-work-with-others/282736438703

Yup, a slightly damaged A400 series keyboard for similar money :-o

Mind you, this Amiga CDTV keyboard is way out there too :-o

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-new-Commodore-Amiga-CDTV-Keyboard-UK/172934247556

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby sirbod » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:50 am

Lardo Boffin wrote:You mean you dont have one? Shucks. :(

I believe I have several copies of Elite and varying versions. Unfortunately for yourself, I was PM'd seconds after my post with a potential offer to take everything off my hands. I've yet to follow that up beyond acknowledging them, as I've not been home enough to find/photograph everything.

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Re: LOLPRICE

Postby Lardo Boffin » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:29 am

sirbod wrote:
Lardo Boffin wrote:You mean you dont have one? Shucks. :(

I believe I have several copies of Elite and varying versions. Unfortunately for yourself, I was PM'd seconds after my post with a potential offer to take everything off my hands. I've yet to follow that up beyond acknowledging them, as I've not been home enough to find/photograph everything.


Not to worry! :D
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