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Re: Today I received.....

Postby flaxcottage » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:37 am

tricky wrote:
flaxcottage wrote:This arrived by post today, a sheet of 0.2mm brass. Now what could it be its use? :lol:
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A streampunk ashtray cover for a beeb ;)


Now there's a thought. :lol:

I did see a steampunk laptop with a Raspberry Pi inside the other day. It looked cool but not really practical.
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Re: Today I received.....

Postby jonb » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:46 am

One of these from LardoBoffin, which I hope will give me a short break from all this Superbrain hand wringing.

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby Elminster » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:52 am

Well you may have one of those but I have a shiny new fake logic analyzer from China
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Re: Today I received.....

Postby flaxcottage » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:41 pm

Yes I have the same one. They are good, I believe. They seem to work very well it is just that I don't really know how to interpret the display. :lol:

I did find, though, that the software would not work on Windows 7. I had to use an older Windows Vista machine to get the software to work! :?
- John

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby flaxcottage » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:43 pm

Thanks, LardoBoffin. =D> =D>

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My CommunITel folder looks the business with a genuine floppy disk. :D
- John

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby Lardo Boffin » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:27 pm

flaxcottage wrote:Thanks, LardoBoffin. =D> =D>

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My CommunITel folder looks the business with a genuine floppy disk. :D


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Re: Today I received.....

Postby Elminster » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:35 pm

flaxcottage wrote:Yes I have the same one. They are good, I believe. They seem to work very well it is just that I don't really know how to interpret the display. :lol:

I did find, though, that the software would not work on Windows 7. I had to use an older Windows Vista machine to get the software to work! :?


Are you using Pulseview, part of sigrok open source package. ? Working fine on Mac. Lots of siggle lines so must be. :)

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby flaxcottage » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:10 pm

No I am using the Seleae software. That is recommended for Windows machines.

It works. I get loads of squiggly lines. It is just interpreting what they mean that has me stumped. :? :lol: :lol:
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Re: Today I received.....

Postby Elminster » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:14 pm

flaxcottage wrote:No I am using the Seleae software. That is recommended for Windows machines.

It works. I get loads of squiggly lines. It is just interpreting what they mean that has me stumped. :? :lol: :lol:


Yeah dont use the Seleae software. a) Because you dont own a real Saleae so not meant to use it ;-) and b) because Sigrok is better (according to people who have tried both).

Have a peruse of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dobU-b0 ... L&index=31 from bloke that wrote GUI for Sigrok

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby Andy1979 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:31 pm

flaxcottage wrote:Thanks, LardoBoffin. =D> =D>

IMAG0862.jpg

My CommunITel folder looks the business with a genuine floppy disk. :D


Awesome. Remember being handed a folder just like that and told to use it for my GCSE Information Systems coursework (setting up a screen in the school foyer and charging people to place a message). To go with it I was given an Acorn Filestore, BBC Master Compact and a couple of Cub monitors, so the first job was getting the software onto a 3.5 inch floppy, and finding a version of DFS I could soft load.

This was 1995 so the kit was already somewhat old hat. The fun I had mapping out the school crest on graph paper and splitting it into 6 pixel characters. It gave me a new respect for the people who edited Teletext. Recall I hacked the code to allow some shortcut buttons connected to the joystick/user port.

It was eventually replaced with a self-written program that would display a sequence of !Draw files on an A3000. Sacrilege perhaps, but at least it wasn't PowerPoint.

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby flaxcottage » Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:41 pm

Elminster wrote:
flaxcottage wrote:No I am using the Seleae software. That is recommended for Windows machines.

It works. I get loads of squiggly lines. It is just interpreting what they mean that has me stumped. :? :lol: :lol:


Yeah dont use the Seleae software. a) Because you dont own a real Saleae so not meant to use it ;-) and b) because Sigrok is better (according to people who have tried both).

Have a peruse of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dobU-b0 ... L&index=31 from bloke that wrote GUI for Sigrok



Thanks for the info.

Actually when I come to look at my Logic Analyser it is a Saleae one so the use of the software is legal. :D I'll have a look at the Sigrok version.
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Re: Today I received.....

Postby flaxcottage » Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:48 pm

flaxcottage wrote:This arrived by post today, a sheet of 0.2mm brass. Now what could it be its use? :lol:


To fix this. :D
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to work this
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I know the calculator looks very dusty but it really isn't. It is just the tiny imperfections in the surface picking up reflected light.

The machine arrived without a battery pack. Now it has one. :D
- John

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby Elminster » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:50 pm

flaxcottage wrote:Actually when I come to look at my Logic Analyser it is a Saleae one so the use of the software is legal. :D I'll have a look at the Sigrok version.


You must be the only person to own an original one as far as I can tell. All the you tube vids are for knock offs.

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby flaxcottage » Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:38 pm

A couple of goodies for one of my beebs. :D
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They do just what it says on the chip. 8) Very easy to install and program. The SWR even works using *SRLOAD from my 1770 DFS.
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Re: Today I received.....

Postby Andy1979 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:51 am

Another haul of 'treasure' from my parents' loft. Pretty much all IBM PC stuff this time. Plan to build a couple of retro PC systems.

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Virtually unused IBX-100 Bush internet box, already modded with a PS2 port. I'd planned to turn this into a RISC OS machine, but never got round to buying a Zip drive. Raspberry Pi now serves that purpose.

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There's a 386 SX-40 lurking inside this anonymous beige tower. Looks like I have a small amount of battery leakage to deal with :?

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Pentium 133 on an early Intel ATX motherboard, dubious looking Opti sound card, PCI graphics and 1st gen 3DFX card. Not sure how much RAM is installed.

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Another pile of PC bits. Particularly happy with the Matrox Millennium graphics card.

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An old Tandon MFM drive (one of the first 3.5 inch drives) and Western Digital controller.

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Epson 5.25inch floppy. Would be good to get this working with my Master Compact if I can.

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The only 5.25inch disks I own. Most appear to be BBC format.

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Some light reading.

Also found a pile of floppies and late 90s games on CD, Logitech wingman joystick and 'ergonomic' Microsoft keyboard for the authentic Windows 95 experience.

There was also a 2-button PS2 logitech mouse which looks otherwise identical to my 3-button Acorn mouse. Could be a useful source of spares if that ever fails.

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby jonb » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:04 pm

I have a Matrox Millenium in my old PC (built to transfer files to/from CP/M disks - the US guys at VCF call them "tweener" PCs). It has never worked properly with Win95 (resource conflict). Anyway, is there any reason to be pleased at owning one? Is it special in any way?

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby Andy1979 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:53 pm

jonb wrote:I have a Matrox Millenium in my old PC (built to transfer files to/from CP/M disks - the US guys at VCF call them "tweener" PCs). It has never worked properly with Win95 (resource conflict). Anyway, is there any reason to be pleased at owning one? Is it special in any way?


I seem to recall that Matrox cards were highly regarded for their image quality over VGA, and it also has proper VRAM vs DRAM used on most cards of that era, so was also the fastest mainstream 2D card you could buy at the time. From around the time I started shopping for a PC to replace my A3010 in the late 90s (I know, I know ...) the gold standard seemed to be a Matrox 2D card coupled with a 3DFX accelerator, which is exactly what I have found in the loft.

Gather there may be some compatibility issues with certain DOS games, but also have an S3 Trio card which is generally the gold standard for compatibility in case I run into that.

Think I'm about to rediscover the horrors of drivers, IRQs and setting DMA addresses for sound cards etc, whereas my Acorn 'just worked' after 19yrs in the loft.

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby jonb » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:01 am

If only mine worked properly (with Windows). It is crashing the machine occasionally too, so I have pulled it and bought a different card. I have a Voodoo2 3DFX card as well.

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby tricky » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:58 am

The main "compatibility" issue we had making games was that the millennium 1 didn't do texturing! The firegl 1000 was also a pain, not doing alpha blending with translucency, but with stippling (now back again as alpha to coverage!)
I had a mystique and my friend had a
Millennium 2 and neither of our video capture cards would work properly in our machines, so we swapped cards and both worked fine for years.
I work for imagination technologies who did the powerVR chips used in the matrox M3D. When I worked in games, I used to say that I would like to work for powerVR if only they were UK based (I thought that they were part of matrox) and then about 7 years ago I found out that they were a UK company and moved :)

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby Andy1979 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:58 am

tricky wrote:The main "compatibility" issue we had making games was that the millennium 1 didn't do texturing! The firegl 1000 was also a pain, not doing alpha blending with translucency, but with stippling (now back again as alpha to coverage!)
I had a mystique and my friend had a
Millennium 2 and neither of our video capture cards would work properly in our machines, so we swapped cards and both worked fine for years.
I work for imagination technologies who did the powerVR chips used in the matrox M3D. When I worked in games, I used to say that I would like to work for powerVR if only they were UK based (I thought that they were part of matrox) and then about 7 years ago I found out that they were a UK company and moved :)


I think the S3 Trio 64V+ card I have was made by Videologic. That's the card I bought back in the day - the Millennium was something I picked up for pennies about 10-15yrs ago, along with the Voodoo card. Will have to see which works best.

Remember the M3D coming out and thinking how clever and efficient the technology was. Always thought it was a shame that it lost out to the Voodoo cards at the time but, as with ARM, it's now powering the world's smartphone games instead. Long may that continue.

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby Elminster » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:55 am

Now what has Rob sent me now (thanks) ..... I shall shall tell my wife I am busy tonight

First to post VideoNula errotica ?
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Re: Today I received.....

Postby Lardo Boffin » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:47 am

Ooh! I'm waiting for mine to be delivered!

Although how I am going to fit it in with the sideways ROM card that is already in there I have no idea... :shock:

Edit - look what just arrived!

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby jonb » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:03 pm

What is it?

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby Lardo Boffin » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:46 pm

jonb wrote:What is it?


The new video ULA

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby Elminster » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:40 pm

jonb wrote:What is it?


Clearly you have been asleep for the last 6 months if you need to ask that :evil:

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby Elminster » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:41 pm

Lardo Boffin wrote:Although how I am going to fit it in with the sideways ROM card that is already in there I have no idea... :shock:


I hear a dremel is the go to tool 8)

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby 1024MAK » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:10 pm

Elminster wrote:
jonb wrote:What is it?


Clearly you have been asleep for the last 6 months if you need to ask that :evil:


He's been in deep, very deep, so deep, that the light from the sun never reaches the void. Up to his eyes in repairing some massive dinosaurs :lol:
The name of the dinosaur? Why it's Superbrain of course.
See the mammoth beasts here and here :mrgreen:

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby Lardo Boffin » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:21 pm

Fitted and working. It's a little snug in there with the sideways ROM and the datacentre!


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So we go from garish

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To a much nicer colour scheme! Although it looks a lot better on the screen than in the photo.

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Awesome!

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby jonb » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:53 pm

1024MAK wrote:He been in deep, very deep, so deep, that the light from the sun never reaches the void. Up to his eyes in repairing some massive dinosaurs :lol:
The name of the dinosaur? Why it's Superbrain of course.
See the mammoth beasts here and here :mrgreen:

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Actually, I have walked away from it for a while as I seem to have blown the DRAM in SB #1 for no apparent reason. I hate it when that happens - one moment you are making progress, then something happens and you are back at Square One (with a new set of problems). It's disheartening. :cry:

Nowhere I haven't been before, though. For me, the trick is to take a break from it.

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Re: Today I received.....

Postby jregel » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:20 pm

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The AMX Super Art manual!

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