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My Atom Software collection (Warning! Big Images!)

Postby Arcadian » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:34 pm

Posting these just in case Kees (or one of the other Atom gurus!) can identify any games/software which isn't currently available online.

It's a shame that Atom software is so scarce ... I think the majority of my tapes came from 4-5 bulk purchases over the last ten years.

I've also got a bunch of 'copy tapes' which may contain copied software, type-ins from books/magazines and possibly even self-written/unpublished programs (in fact, I know I have one text adventure called "Dungeon" that was written by a guy in Leicestershire, whom I bought some Atom stuff from about 10 years ago). Anyway, at some point I'll hopefully get round to sorting these out for dumping too.


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Re: My Atom Software collection (Warning! Big Images!)

Postby Arcadian » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:34 pm

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(Same games as above [less Chaser] but with proper labels)

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(I also have 'Space Adventure' by DP Saville, but forgot to photograph it!)

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Postby Arcadian » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:35 pm

Also have FLAC/CSW/HQ.UEF files of the following, though I appear to have lost or misplaced the original cassettes ... :(

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Postby CMcDougall » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:58 pm

nice Mr.M 8)
out of interest, if these are older than beeb/elk tapes, ie <1984, do they actually still work :? bet the cheap C12 WHSmith ones are now clear not brown :|
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Postby Garrettimus » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:08 pm

Absolutely fantastic collection, congratulations! =D>

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Postby robinirvine » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:10 pm

Much respect :) Never seen so many Atom originals in place !!!
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Postby oss003 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:17 pm

Hi Dave,

:shock: :shock: :shock: So much original software ........ =D>

Hoglet was building himself a software database with original titles but he is missing a few titles:

http://www.stardot.org.uk/forums/viewto ... c&start=30

I'll see if I can come up with a checklist.

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Postby Arcadian » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:28 pm

CMcDougall wrote:nice Mr.M 8)
out of interest, if these are older than beeb/elk tapes, ie <1984, do they actually still work :? bet the cheap C12 WHSmith ones are now clear not brown :|

I tried loading some of them a couple of years ago.

The Acornsoft ones I tried loaded successfully - they sounded like 'strong' recordings and I'm guessing that good quality cassettes were used.

As for the others (Bug-Byte, A&F etc) well, they were a different story altogether! The tapes were very ropey and I don't think I got any of them to load ... however, Fraser was able to dump the ones I sent him to working CSW/UEF files, so that's certainly a positive.

When I (or rather, you! ;)) get round to dumping these tapes, my intention is to Tape > Tape copy each one to a brand new D90 on high speed using a professional duplicator, then use the copy to produce the recording. Sound sensible?
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Postby Arcadian » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:36 pm

oss003 wrote:I'll see if I can come up with a checklist.

Thanks Kees - it was actually your post about the Atom Gamebase that inspired me to sort through these tapes and at least create a [photographic] record of my collection! :)

Edit: I've checked my tapes against the list Hoglet posted and have made a reply in the thread.
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Postby Pernod » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:55 pm

Wow, never knew so many titles existed for the Atom.

I see an old Yashima tape in there, they actually weren't too bad for an unknown brand.
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Postby paulv » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:04 pm

Excellent collection :D =D> =D>

I've never seen a WHSmith C12 before, only C15's of which I have plenty somewhere! The C12's though are surely *** L@@K RARE *** in and of themselves :lol: :lol:

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Postby CMcDougall » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:14 pm

Arcadian wrote:intention is to Tape > Tape copy each one to a brand new D90 on high speed using a professional duplicator, then use the copy to produce the recording

high speed dubbing [-X Normal always!
These tapes may not even last that first process, go straight to .WAV [-o<
to working CSW/UEF files

each tape has its own unique character :x some don't work CSW, but UEF does and vice versa :-k ](*,) some even only go into Jon's bbctapedisc proggy :-s
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Postby Arcadian » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:22 pm

CMcDougall wrote:high speed dubbing [-X Normal always!

Actually, professional duplicators don't have a 'normal' setting; they duplicate at a higher speed by default.
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Postby CMcDougall » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:32 am

^still think 16X :shock: high speed dubbing is too harsh for these now dying tapes. The brown stuff would probably just fly off like confetti :cry:
why copy to same media as we now have .WAV & 1TB+ extHDs \:D/
and don't start me on DAT to DAT, utter pointless as well.
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Postby Prime » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:25 am

WOW, the collection of Acorn tapes in the first picture's gotta be worth an absolute fortune for starters.

I know it's not much, but I (successfully) dumped with Kees' assistance the CESIL interpreter whilst some of those tapes where with me, so we have a dump of that at least.

Must check out the Atom tapes I have though I dunno if I have anything rare.

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Postby hoglet » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:48 pm

Wow, this collection is amazing!!! =D> =D> =D>

There are many games here that I have not seen in any of the usual on-line places.

I see you replied in the other thread:
http://www.stardot.org.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2888&hilit=atommc&start=30#p58277

It would be really awesome if you were able to find the time to copy some of these to WAVs.

I'd suggest starting with the missing Acornsoft ones, then go on to Hopesoft, since almost none of their stuff is available on-line:

Acornsoft ATOM LIFE PACKAGE - LIFEPC
Acornsoft ATOM Word Tutor
Acornsoft Games Pack 10

Hopesoft Atom Adventure
Hopesoft Chaser
Hopesoft Pirate Island
Hopesoft Write your own Adventure

I'm almost cured of my Colour board obsession, so I should be able to find some time to continue the Atom archive project. :D :D :D

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Postby Arcadian » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:24 am

Well, I'm afraid I've ignored the advice (sorry Col! ;) ) and used a duplicator to produce copies of the multiples in my Atom collection, onto brand new D90 cassettes.

I haven't listened to the new recordings (don't have a cassette recorder to hand) but there were no signs of the original tape surfaces flaking off like confetti ;).

In most cases I've used the duplicator's built-in noise correction dial to boost the source volume (as according to the volume indicators, some of the recordings were exceptionally quiet).

Anyway, will get these off to Col soon so he can try and produce decent WAV files (and then hopefully, FLAC, CSW, HQ.UEF etc!).

If this method turns out to be a success, then I'll do a similar thing for the rest of the Atom titles in my collection (provided Col hasn't lost the will to live by then! ;) ).

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Postby Garrettimus » Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:46 am

Fantastic collection, congratulations! =D>

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Postby hoglet » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:15 pm

Whohooo!! I look forward to being able to fill some gaps in the archive, and re-publish this again.

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Postby Arcadian » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:53 pm

Tapes (finally) posted to Colin today.

I've also picked out the Hopesoft titles ready for duplication - one we've been able to confirm that this method results in working copies that are suitable for preservation, we'll get these done next.
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Postby CMcDougall » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:02 pm

hi Dave, postman brought me nothing today, maybe you posted them after 5pm (last post pickup).
Was looking forward to it tonight as well .... :^o lol
noticed on your UR tape covers, they are boosted, low/norm/max. Least this will give me some idea when a original side has finished and can split. Unless you recorded yourself shouting "that's that side done!" in between them. :lol:
Last night (when doing some more preparation) the Tape Control on the Atomulator113 emulator still does not work (as with BeebEm414 and bEm22 30% of the time), so looks like I will be working blind :cry:

Here's to tomorrow, and can check at lunchtime, Col :wink:
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Postby oss003 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:25 pm

CMcDougall wrote:Last night (when doing some more preparation) the Tape Control on the Atomulator113 emulator still does not work (as with BeebEm414 and bEm22 30% of the time), so looks like I will be working blind :cry:

Here's to tomorrow, and can check at lunchtime, Col :wink:

Hi Colin,

what do you mean with the Tape Control on Atomulator113 still does not work? Doesn't Atomulator read the CSW/UEF files or is something else going wrong?

I used CSW Viewer release 38 and MakeUEF v2.3 to convert the Retrosoft titles. The commandline for MakeUEF was:

makeuef -y 1 300 -z 1 atm -i filename.csw -w 0 180

This worked (almost) for all files. If the CSW file wasn't readable, the UEF file was or vice versa.

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Postby CMcDougall » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:48 pm

oss003 wrote:Tape Control on Atomulator113 still does not work?

hi Kees, i mean, >Tape>Load tape... (UEFhq or CSW), then go to >Tape>Show catalogue, and nothing in the box :shock:
but do LOAD"", and a game is loaded. 8)

EDIT: just found a work around, load tape, rewind tape, show cat \:D/
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Postby CMcDougall » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:34 pm

They are here! :D ....... :shock: ....... :( lol
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Postby Arcadian » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:46 pm

Yay! :D

Ok, regarding all the tape-tape copies I made of the original Atom cassettes: can you initially create one large WAV file per side? Once you've done that I reckon it'll be pretty easy to separate where each recording 'finishes', by watching/listening out for sudden, momentary spikes in the waveforms.

Regarding the 'blank' tapes - they're for Retro Software masters. Will drop you a line separately about those! ;)

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Postby CMcDougall » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:48 pm

Arcadian wrote:create one large WAV file per side

that's what i had in mind, and my main PC is now doing it :)
your right about the vol, it's all over the place, so will have to peak the split files to -2.5db (as per beeb/elk) and then use them [-o< .
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Postby Arcadian » Sun May 05, 2013 8:28 pm

LOL, would you believe it - Atom Games Pack 10 (which was MIA until CMcDougall uploaded a copy of my cassette last week) has just appeared on eBay!

(Interestingly the same seller has Acornsoft Chess up for sale too - which I haven't seen listed before I don't think - so I've slapped an early bid in on that ...)
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Postby The Equalizer » Sun May 05, 2013 8:38 pm

Wow, that's some Atom collection. Like most have said, I have never seen so much Atom software in one place. Well done on a great collection and good luck on your current eBay bid. :)
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