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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby oss003 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:25 pm

Welkome to the club Martin .... :lol:

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Postby martinw » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:31 pm

oss003 wrote:Welkome to the club Martin .... :lol:

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby Multiwizard » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:35 pm

martinw wrote:Thank you guys this really is ace!

Running all these games on a real Atom, you can't beat it for my money 8) =D>

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Indeed... :D


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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby Multiwizard » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:44 pm

Hi,

I am going through some tapes (which came years ago with one of the Atoms)

Is this a MIA game?, see pics.


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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby oss003 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:22 pm

No, Plakoto is already in the archive...... :(

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby Multiwizard » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:35 pm

oss003 wrote:No, Plakoto is already in the archive...... :(

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Ok thanks, just asking... :mrgreen:


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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby hoglet » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:16 pm

Hi all,

I just stumbled across another MIA title, this time from Acornsoft: Forth Utilities:
Forth-Utilities-000.jpg

http://www.everygamegoing.com/egg/landi ... Utilities/

This is different to Atom Forth, which we already have:
s-l1600 (1).jpg

There is a review here:
http://www.forums1.jupiter-ace.co.uk/Fo ... _8210.html

Anyone have a copy of this for the archive?

Dave

There also happens to be one on ebay at the moment, with a rather nice Atom included as well:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acorn-Atom-B ... 2804421883
s-l1600 (2).jpg

(Kamikaze is also a new title I think)
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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby hoglet » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:21 pm

I found the Forth Utilities manual is actually on Roland's site:
http://www.acornatom.nl/atom_handleidin ... orth01.htm

But unfortunately no sign of the program to go with it.

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby hoglet » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:29 pm

hoglet wrote:But unfortunately no sign of the program to go with it.

Hah, found it!
http://www.acornatom.nl/atomarch/acl2-21/

In the cunningly named files: 024, 025,

Lets see if it works....

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There are some other FORTH programs here:
http://www.acornatom.nl/atomarch/acl1-07/

( TAPE/EDITOR - 1 )
( TAPE/EDITOR - 2 )
( TAPE/EDITOR - 3 )
( TAPE/EDITOR - 4 )
( TAPE/EDITOR - 5 )
( TAPE/EDITOR - 6 )
( TAPE/EDITOR - 7 )
( TAPE/EDITOR - 8 )
( TAPE/EDITOR - 9 )

( FULL GRAPHICS - 1 )
( FULL GRAPHICS - 2 )
( FULL GRAPHICS - 3 )
( FULL GRAPHICS - 4 )

But I think we have these already.

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby Multiwizard » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:06 pm

hoglet wrote:Hi all,

I just stumbled across another MIA title, this time from Acornsoft: Forth Utilities:

Dave
Hi,

was this a MIA, I have this tape for years... :(

Or is it about the green one? :-k


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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby hoglet » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:18 pm

Multiwizard wrote:was this a MIA, I have this tape for years... :(

Well, it was only MIA in the sense that I didn't know it existed, so it never made it into the catalogue, and it's never been included in the archive.

It also never made it into any of the Acornsoft catalogues that I have seen. For example, I thought every Acornsoft Atom title was in this catalog:
http://chrisacorns.computinghistory.org ... orAtom.pdf

So it's really exciting to discover a new title by a major Atom publisher. Rather like finding a previously unknown Picasso (except worth a bit less....)

I wonder what else you have in your little Dutch Acorn Attic? Do you have a list of your tapes or some pictures?

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P.S. The green one is the main Forth program, and that is in the archive.

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby hoglet » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:24 pm

Probably worth trawling some of the online databases, and see if they also bring up anything new:
http://www.gamesdatabase.org/list.aspx? ... acorn_atom
and
http://www.everygamegoing.com/egg/searc ... pe=machine

Edit: Eventually found Forth Utilities listed in an advert:
midwich_add.png


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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby Multiwizard » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:42 pm

hoglet wrote:
Multiwizard wrote:was this a MIA, I have this tape for years... :(

I wonder what else you have in your little Dutch Acorn Attic? Do you have a list of your tapes or some pictures?

Dave

Nope, I have no list jet..

Isn't there a "short" Atom MIA list about?


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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby hoglet » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:30 pm

Multiwizard wrote:Isn't there a "short" Atom MIA list about?

These are the current missing commercial titles from my spreadsheet:

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Aardvark        Hedgehog
Aardvark        Invaders

A&F S/W         Atomic Cube
A&F S/W         Escape
A&F S/W         Pontoon
A&F S/W         Starburst

Atomic S/W      3-Towers
Atomic S/W      Auto-Number
Atomic S/W      Blocade
Atomic S/W      Dump Utilities
Atomic S/W      Keyboard-Scan
Atomic S/W      Lunar Lander
Atomic S/W      Program-Move
Atomic S/W      Sketch
Atomic S/W      Ski Run
Atomic S/W      Word Processor

Bug Byte        1-Key Basic
Bug Byte        Atom Invasion
Bug Byte        Disassembler
Bug Byte        Dodgems
Bug Byte        Mini Breakout
Bug Byte        Parachute
Bug Byte        Simon
Bug Byte        Snake
Bug Byte        Squares
Bug Byte        Stock Market

Computersmith   Financial Year
Computersmith   Stock Market

Hopesoft        Disassembler
Hopesoft        Space Invaders

Prog Power      Alien Maze
Prog Power      Anteater
Prog Power      Aztec
Prog Power      Breakaway
Prog Power      Chessboard
Prog Power      Condense
Prog Power      Demovaders
Prog Power      Derby
Prog Power      Dodge
Prog Power      Dogfight
Prog Power      Edit
Prog Power      Galactica
Prog Power      Grafix
Prog Power      Hidden
Prog Power      Hi-Stats
Prog Power      Kiddycount
Prog Power      Labyrinth
Prog Power      Laser Fight
Prog Power      Life
Prog Power      Lunar Lander
Prog Power      Mazeball
Prog Power      Minefield
Prog Power      Rat Race
Prog Power      Ravine
Prog Power      Reaction Race
Prog Power      Sheepdog Trial
Prog Power      Sketchpad
Prog Power      Ski Run
Prog Power      Slot Racer
Prog Power      Space Storm
Prog Power      Stockbroker
Prog Power      Super Racetrack
Prog Power      Territory
Prog Power      The Park
Prog Power      Trang
Prog Power      Yan
Prog Power      Zombies

Pro Software    3D Labyrinth
Pro Software    Air Strike
Pro Software    Chase
Pro Software    Reversi
Pro Software    Road Race
Pro Software    Space Adventure

The list is also in the second post of this thread:
http://www.stardot.org.uk/forums/viewto ... 715#p63715

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby Multiwizard » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:45 pm

hoglet wrote:
Multiwizard wrote:Isn't there a "short" Atom MIA list about?

These are the current missing commercial titles from my spreadsheet:

The list is also in the second post of this thread:
http://www.stardot.org.uk/forums/viewto ... 715#p63715

Dave
Thanks,

I did copy these lists to a WORD document... :D


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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby oss003 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:14 am

I found a screenshot and some info about Astro Battle Zone on this site: http://retrocgads.tumblr.com/tagged/atom/
and another MIA game':

Odd-Ball (Packman type) by Vixsoft

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby hoglet » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:28 am

Anyone familiar with a title called COSMIAD?
http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/42413/Cosmiad/

This one is also missing from the archive.

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby oss003 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:48 am

hoglet wrote:Anyone familiar with a title called COSMIAD?
http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/42413/Cosmiad/

This one is also missing from the archive.

No, that's the second MIA title from the Centre of Computing History Museum, I think we have to pay the Museum another visit ....... :lol:

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby hoglet » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:55 pm

Here's a fun little machine code racing game, a from Bug Byte's "The Atom" magazine issue 3:
TheAtom_Racer.zip
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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby oss003 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:36 pm

Dave, there are problems with these games:

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   061 Bombs Away        - ERROR after angle, speed input???
   142 Atom Invaders     - ?#330F=#F2 also JS version to avoid modeswitch
   192 Chess             - Graphics corrupt
   207 Martians          - Fill#9800,#A000,#FF otherwise martians fall through bottom
   223 Space Fighter     - Change to original keys instead of joykey
   306 CGALA             - *LOAD"SCORE"64A
   373 Othello           - ERROR
   582 Pontoon           - Uses Wordpack font
   667 Mouse DOS box     - Change mouse addresses to #BDE8/9/A
   878 F14-Tomcat        - Replace with disk version   

I also got the Go West SID tune on Disk17 working.

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby oss003 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:39 pm

Here are some updated files, Atom invaders, Martians and Galaforce.
Martians has to be started with a *RUN instead of a LOAD,RUN.

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby hoglet » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:45 pm

Thanks Kees, I'll merge those changes in tomorrow.

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby Festuceto » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:26 am

In the update folder there are also some replacing files, I saw, why?

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby oss003 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:18 am

Festuceto wrote:In the update folder there are also some replacing files, I saw, why?

These are the fixed versions of the above mentioned problems.

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby oss003 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:25 pm

And here's the original Space Fighter version.

What about the Forth utils?

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby hoglet » Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:48 pm

oss003 wrote:What about the Forth utils?

I would like to include this, but it's quite hard to package it for easy use. If you just add the files to "Atom Forth" you end up with >31 files which breaks the disk generation (for SDDOS and JS). Any ideas? Maybe even with this problem, having it there is better than not. It would just work on the AtoMMC build. There are a few other titles like this.

I've added your fixes for the following and pushed a new dev build to github:

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   142 Atom Invaders     - ?#330F=#F2 also JS version to avoid modeswitch
   207 Martians          - Fill#9800,#A000,#FF otherwise martians fall through bottom
   223 Space Fighter     - Change to original keys instead of joykey
   306 CGALA             - *LOAD"SCORE"64A
   901 Beeb SID 17, "Go West"


This I think was done previously, can you check if that's OK?

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   878 F14-Tomcat        - Replace with disk version   


So that leaves:

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   061 Bombs Away        - ERROR after angle, speed input???
   192 Chess             - Graphics corrupt
   373 Othello           - ERROR
   582 Pontoon           - Uses Wordpack font
   667 Mouse DOS box     - Change mouse addresses to #BDE8/9/A

I'll look at Bombs Away.

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby oss003 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:18 pm

F14 normal is ok but F14 SID is using #0A0x .......

I read in the manual that Forth is Econet compatible.
Maybe this is an option to access commands by OSCLI
If this is working, you could switch to drive 1 for extra commands.
I'm no Forth expert but if this works, you can save the utils on several disks.

If this doesn't work or is to complicated, only use AtoMMC

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby hoglet » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:28 pm

I've found the problem with Bomb's Away:

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8@=4;Q=#B002;B=#83C0;C=0;D=0
18DOP.$30"SCORE:(1)"D" (2)"C';E=0;K=R.%#FF;E=0;DOP=(P+1)&1
20P.$30'"PLAYER"P+1';IN."ANGLE"A,"SPEED"H;H=H*10;V=0;F.N=0TOA
30H=H-3*V/172;V=V+3*H/172;N.;W=0;IFP=1W=63;H=-H
45T=0;MOVEW,0;DOT=T+1;PLOT14,X,Y;Y=V*T/999-T*T/99+1
50X=W+(H+K)*T/999;PLOT14,X,Y;?Q=?Q:4;IFX<0ORX>63G.d
70IFY>B?X G.d
80IFX=0C=C+1;Y=-1;E=1;G.d
85IFX=63D=D+1;Y=-1;E=1;G.d
90Y=-1;P.$7
100dU.Y<0;U.E=1;Z=X/2+#81E0;F.N=0TO99;?Q=?N&4;?Z=?Z:-1;N.;U.0

It uses MOVE/PLOT but doesn't explicitly do a CLEAR 0, so the plot vectors are not correctly setup.

I'm thinking this is really a bug in the menu program, which should leave the vectors setup for clear 0.

I'll look at fixing that now.

Edit: Now fixed.

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby hoglet » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:42 pm

oss003 wrote:F14 normal is ok but F14 SID is using #0A0x .......

I'm including the version you linked to here:
http://www.stardot.org.uk/forums/viewto ... 72#p175172

Is there a a disk version that includes the SID Music?

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Postby oss003 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:58 pm

hoglet wrote:Is there a a disk version that includes the SID Music?

No, have to see if I can create one ........ it has been a while .... ;)

Othello in the non commercial group has line 26016 malformed:

othello.png

I changed the value to #3BF4 if I look into the link to 36B3 but I'm not sure.
It does however go on.

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