Epson HX20 - first laptop !EVER! 1981+

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Epson HX20 - first laptop !EVER! 1981+

Postby CMcDougall » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:44 pm

Epson HX20 - first laptop !EVER! 1981+
mine says on back sticker : battery installed 9 June 1989
last used per date on micro tape : December 1994

She lives! after......
Soldered a link as the blue ribbon from keyboard to LCD screen eaten by battery,
and -/neg was going nowhere, so soldered to PSU socket & +/pos to the fuse \:D/

some pics, as not alot of info on this on net, or insides :shock: , :
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main MB solder side
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keyboard & LCD
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Re: Epson HX20 - first laptop !EVER! 1981+

Postby CMcDougall » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:53 pm

and the better than CGA graphics card working... :-$
NOTE: the adaptor to recharge the battery is wrong way round [-X , so +/pos side of socket , -/neg middle pin on socket
will do pictures of mini tape deck & printer part if the sun comes back out 8)
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Re: Epson HX20 - first laptop !EVER! 1981+

Postby Pernod » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:45 pm

Thanks for the photos, it's good to see it looks like a standard MOSU board. Have you found any other references to the CM6000 anywhere? I can find manuals for the HX-20 but no mention of the CM6000. It has to be different in some way to map those 3x16K ROMs rather then the usual 4x8K found in the HX-20.
Are you able to also dump the mask ROM at location 6G? This is used by the slave CPU, expect it to be 4K.

Date codes on the IC's place this at least 1988, the boards of the HX-20 are much earlier 84/85.
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Re: Epson HX20 - first laptop !EVER! 1981+

Postby jonb » Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:06 am

By the looks of it I'd suggest that "CM6000" is a rebadged HX-20. The keyboard surround looks very aftermarket.

HX-20 is one of the first machines I wrote code for professionally.. I recall it had a nice keyboard and a tiny little screen (too small for BASIC but otherwise readable). I keep thinking about getting one for old time's sake. :roll:

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Re: Epson HX20 - first laptop !EVER! 1981+

Postby Pernod » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:40 am

jonb wrote:By the looks of it I'd suggest that "CM6000" is a rebadged HX-20. The keyboard surround looks very aftermarket.

Agreed, looks like an overlay.

I've been comparing photos of motherboards:
1982 MOSU 20120200000 B:::.
1984 MOSU 20120200003 ?
1985 MOSU 20120200004 E:::.
1985 MOSU 20120200004 E::::.
1988 MOSU 20120200004 H:::

Yours is the latest. Note the dots after the board revision, maybe indicate ROM configuration.
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Re: Epson HX20 - first laptop !EVER! 1981+

Postby CMcDougall » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:11 pm

^good investigation work! 8)
Pernod wrote:dump the mask ROM at location 6G? This is used by the slave CPU, expect it to be 4K.

good news, it's in a socket (& had other 2 out to check for rust before power it up 23yrs later), so no unsolder pump \:D/
bad news, my beeb or my Uviprom probably won't read, as not got 28 legs....

I just spent about 30mins blowing 5x 2764 /8k roms from version11 from 'emuparadise' site
and as you thought, not working :( screen just flashes and its beeps 3 times, then repeats
so much for turning it into a BASIC language machine and the SkiWriter word processor :cry:
if you go to that site, there is also Version10, and also a 4k file "hd6301v16d", might be that chip at 6G :?
jonb wrote:suggest that "CM6000" is a rebadged HX-20. The keyboard surround looks very aftermarket

yes, not for general public, just like the Acorn Electron, turning into a business telephone system, and renaming it Merlin
mine has logo on it bottom left by same phone co
just noticed pics on eBay, on back of mine it still says "Seiko Epson Corp." & higher serial No. 049854

this is the screens I get from my 3x16k chip set, being Version4.3 & not clear in MB pic "CM6032A" on them too
can download them here : download/file.php?id=32539
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HX20 status key
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HX20 totals.jpg
HX20 totals key
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HX20 turn on, sometimes with little man next to phone
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Re: Epson HX20 - first laptop !EVER! 1981+

Postby Pernod » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:15 pm

CMcDougall wrote:^good investigation work! 8)
Pernod wrote:dump the mask ROM at location 6G? This is used by the slave CPU, expect it to be 4K.

good news, it's in a socket (& had other 2 out to check for rust before power it up 23yrs later), so no unsolder pump \:D/
bad news, my beeb or my Uviprom probably won't read, as not got 28 legs....

That's a shame, chances are it's the same as standard HX-20, but really need to know for certain.

I wouldn't give up on getting BASIC and SkiWriter working. Here's what we know about a standard HX-20:
- 5 ROM sockets, 8K each
- 11E 6000-7fff Option ROM
- 12E 8000-9fff BASIC
- 13E a000-bfff BASIC
- 14E c000-dfff Firmware
- 15E e000-ffff Firmware

Considering the CM6000 expects 3x16K ROM in 11E, 13E, 15E, let's assume:
- 11E 4000-7fff
- 13E 8000-bfff
- 15E c000-ffff

So with the standard HX-20 ROMs that you have, blow 3x16K as follows:
- 11E = SkiWriter in the top half only, 2000-3fff
- 13E = BASIC, join your ROMS with extensions 12e and 13e
- 15E = Firmware, join your ROMs with extension 14e and 15e

Fingers crossed [-o<
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Re: Epson HX20 - first laptop !EVER! 1981+

Postby CMcDougall » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:06 pm

back of mine, with dates etc, and the silver rusted thing to cover the 'green' rusty battery:
hx20 back.jpg
back of case

Pernod wrote:let's assume

was contemplating the same, great minds think alike 8)
I was not sure of where the 'OS'/firmware was etc, so thanks for working it out, as does not have OS1.20 at start [-(
so to confirm before 45+ mins of burning eproms, thought would take each of my original 16k chips out once at a time
starting with 11E out being optional rom, I got 'ambulance sounds' and this on screen "HALT 42 62 7E02"
all three eproms must need to be together, but confirmed range &7E02 =D>
then took out 13E being 'language' and got same noise with "HALT CD CE 8CCF"
confirming again &range
joined up the 2x8k 'OS'/firmware V11 onto 16k eprom, popped it in and got :
hx20 os only.jpg
OS v11

carried on same with Basic, but a no show... so played with Monitor :
hx20 mon.jpg
in MONITOR

done same with 'FF' then SkiWriter, no show, but then thought to play with the CTRL@ change date:
hx20 change date.jpg
change date scr

111111111111 Return, then done a Break, BINGO! :D :
hx20 after date.jpg
reset, now cooking the gas!

when pressing 3, it asks to goto Basic first, so did and got splash SkiWriter splash:
hx20 skiWriter splash.jpg
skiW splash scr

pressing 2 for Basic works :
hx20 basic.jpg
basic prog

but will miss my 'wee man' on the beller :cry: :lol:
hx20 wee man.jpg
cool
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Re: Epson HX20 - first laptop !EVER! 1981+

Postby Pernod » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:09 pm

CMcDougall wrote:but will miss my 'wee man' on the beller :cry: :lol:

Awesome, so was I 100% correct with the mapping?
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Re: Epson HX20 - first laptop !EVER! 1981+

Postby CMcDougall » Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:17 pm

^sure was 8)
after all this time to solder it up to work & the 'new' 16k roms burning, I noticed the Return key not registering until 3 presses :?
so took keyboard to bits a little:
keySwitches.jpg
keySwitches

so the little shaped metal thing was not very good after all these years, so after 6+ different positions :roll:
i then got it to beep on my multimeter tester :) , put all back together, still did not work :x :lol:
so on close inspection of solder side of the 2pins, it had dry solder joint on one, and could move up/down
soldered on some more, all Working again :D

pics of Micro Cassette Drive:
deck10pin.jpg
deck10pin

tapeDeckBack.jpg
deck back

interface connector 40pins:
interface40pin.jpg
interface40pin

RS232 lead maybe for it, black left is shielding on right plug to no pins:
RS232 lead maybe blackRight is shielding on right plug to no pins.jpg
lead


to get this machine to use Ear /Mic on right side of it, need to take tape deck aside/out & do a reset.
here is a little basic prog to load, use laptop volume at 66% to play out 8)
TEST2(playVol66.zip
.WAV file tester 19seconds
(202.32 KiB) Downloaded 7 times

the first 4.5 seconds are not needed , nor the last 6 seconds, as probably just lead in/out
WaveLabTEST2KM.png
the WAV

I found two crap MP3s from years back on the WWW, but had to do a bit of fixing, and loaded some progs being:
STATPAK, FUTURE, DAYDATE, AMORTIZE, TENKEY, PHONE, HANDLER, TIMER, & WRITER (11mins total)
have then saved them back out, so if anyone wants them (or interested at all? #-o ) just shout :?

& AND if anyone can supply more .WAVs of basic progs, especially =P~ City Bomber =P~ let me know !! :D
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