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Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Greybeard » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:58 am

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200373346108

Looks like a Solidisk box. If it was a bit closer I would have a punt myself. :)

And here's another "empty Wedge" (which seems to be doing OK):-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110425002418

And, lastly, it looks like this bloke has some nice stuff:-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260464725295

OK, just one more ...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320412878055

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby iomanoid » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:23 am

LOL, have you been sniffing through my eBay watch list?

I'm probably going for both those Archs (from the 3rd seller) at any cost...

Thinking about the second processor as well (the full one), although not so sure about that as I do have two already... 8)
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Greybeard » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:30 am

Yes, they're nice ones (and not too far away from me, either). But price wise, they're a bit out of my reach at the moment, unfortunately.

About the "list" ... I thought that (whilst I was at it) I may as well share my findings, as it were! :)

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby retroclinic » Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:19 pm

Hi.

Just keep your fingers crossed the batteries haven't leaked too badly on those Arcs. They're in a separate 2 x AA holder on those models (unlike the A540 and A3000 upwards), and azre more prone to leaking, just like the Master pack. If leaked, they will quickly rust the internal metal of the case, but there is a gap to the PCB, so you may get lucky and it will not have gotten that far. Maybe ask the seller to check them?

Also, those keyboards probably aren't the originals, as I beleive those models should have red function keys.

Still...a nice condtion exterior and a good box is most of the way there to having a true minter, as you can usually clean PCBs from older machines to look like new and swap them over if there is any battery damage.

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby SarahWalker » Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:29 pm

retroclinic wrote:Also, those keyboards probably aren't the originals, as I beleive those models should have red function keys.


A440/1 has the right keyboard, those machines had the grey function keys. A310 should have red keys though.

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Greybeard » Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:38 pm

Yes, you're right about the (function) key colours, there, Tom. I've had both machines here within living memory. Neither one had blue keys, unfortunately.

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby iomanoid » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:00 pm

I did clock the keyboard mismatch - the first one's from an original A440 (the only one with grey function keys and a keystrip holder). Second keyboard is correct for the type, the 4x0/1 series lost the keystrip holder - good thing too I reckon, since it invariably snapped off anyway...

The mouse is also wrong - A310 came with the earlier 'late-amx-type' mouse, not the Logitech one with the extra nipples on the ends of the buttons. Still, if those really are genuine original sealed items it's still something worth to have, whether they're 'right' for the base unit or not.

On reflection I'm not too sure about this seller though, he seems a little 'enthusiastic' with his listing descriptions. He's also got an issue 3 Beeb up, which is 'BNIB', 'Superb Condition' and - *ahem* - 'probably never been used'... which I find highly unlikely, considering the case actually looks rather grubby and even has a blank Acorn User keystrip slotted into place!
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Greybeard » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:37 pm

... time will tell. :)

For me, the SideWise board and the 5.25/3.5 disk drive unit are the most interesting!

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Arcadian » Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:08 am

Got my eye on the 5.25/3.5 combo too! ;)
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Greybeard » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:32 am

Never mind your eye. What about your money? :)

Or are you going to "come out" here as a [censored] sniper? :(

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Arcadian » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:27 am

Oh, after spending many years not sniping, I nearly always snipe now.

Nothing to be ashamed about as far as I'm concerned.

When I spot something I want, I just load my max bid into the snipe service I use then forget all about it.

Of course, it's in a seller's interest to see a bidding frenzy, but as a buyer I've won more auctions (and overall, pay less for what I win) when I've 'sniped'.
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Greybeard » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:02 am

Name and Shame! Yes ... I'm aware that a number of others who get on here are also into sniping on eBay.

Why not just "load your max bid" without sniping?

Anyway, I've increased my bid on that one to £ 100. Let's see you snipe that! :)

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Arcadian » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:07 am

Why snipe?

As eBay is using proxy bidding, legitimate question is - why snipe at all? If you submit your bid at eBay early, and if your maximum bid is higher than that of a sniping user, you will win regardless. While this fact is true, user experience and even some scientific research conducted says that sniping does pay. Here are some reasons why.

1. Your early bid is an important information for other bidders. This specially applies to rare items, value of which is directly determined by interest. Other bidders may realize true value of an item only after you submit your bid. By bidding early, you are helping them, and that's against your own interest.
2. Bidders tend to be overly optimistic, and therefore enter value lower than what they are really ready to pay. Leave them time to bid again after being outbid, and you will end up paying more, or lose the item you are bidding on.
3. Bidders get excited during auctions, and are often ready to bid way more than what is rational.
4. Ever been victim of shill bidding? It's a fraudulent practice used by some sellers to inflate the price of an item by using another eBay ID to bid on their own item (and retracting bid if they go too far. Be especially careful if bidders' IDs are kept private). If you use sniping, fraudulent sellers have no time to conduct shill bidding.
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby retroclinic » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:11 am

I'm sorry...but £100? Dude...it's yours =D>

If anyone else feels left out, I can build 2 for that price, and they'll have more reliable 5.25" mechanisms than Chinon....

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby iomanoid » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:27 am

I can't think of any reason for not sniping, from a buyer's point of view.

Also disagree that it's bad for sellers - I've lost count of the number of auctions I've been watching that have stayed at a static (and low) bid for virtually the entire duration, only to soar astronomically in the last few seconds as all the sniping services cut in and try to out-do each other...
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Greybeard » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:37 am

Actually ... what would really interest me is a box something like that one ... but with "everything" included.

Stuff like:-

1) 5.25" floppy drive
2) 3.5" floppy drive
3) Heavy duty power supply*
4) USB connection(s)
5) Break-in connectors taken from the various ports
6) Anything else I can think of along those lines

That is an Experimenter's Common Interface Box (for the BBC Micro).

RetroClinic's next project, perhaps? :)

* That is, with multiple outlets of the type found underneath the Beeb.

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Greybeard » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:41 am

iomanoid wrote:... have stayed at a static (and low) bid for virtually the entire duration, only to soar astronomically in the last few seconds as all the sniping services cut in and try to out-do each other...

That first 6.99 days is for advertising purposes only! :)

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby retroclinic » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:51 am

Greybeard wrote:Actually ... what would really interest me is a box something like that one ... but with "everything" included.

Stuff like:-

1) 5.25" floppy drive
2) 3.5" floppy drive
3) Heavy duty power supply*
4) USB connection(s)
5) Break-in connectors taken from the various ports
6) Anything else I can think of along those lines

That is an Experimenter's Common Interface Box (for the BBC Micro).

RetroClinic's next project, perhaps? :)

* That is, with multiple outlets of the type found underneath the Beeb.


All doable, bar the details. How big is your purse? You tell me what you're looking for, and I'll do my best to build it for you.

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Greybeard » Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:14 pm

Actually Mark, I've got all the bits and pieces laying around here to enable me to knock up such a thing (a "prototype"?) myself ... all, that is, except for one of your USB doodads!

I also have a couple of those ex-schools Philip Harris interface boxes (an "Easy Memory Unit" and an "A-D-A Unit") that look like they need to be to put to work doing something useful. Plus various little (Beeb related) "interface boxes", amplifiers et al, that I've picked up along the way.

Perhaps I'll get around to it one of these days. One *almighty lash-up, I should imagine! :)

Thinking about it for another 23 micro seconds ... my "spec" would probably have to include a switched mains outlet. At least it will give the cassette player relay something to do (at long last).

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby iomanoid » Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:12 pm

I didn't bid on the 2nd processor in the end.

Which begs the question - why do the items I don't bid on, always end up far cheaper than the ones where I do? It's hardly the first time... :?
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Greybeard » Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:17 am

Never mind. It looks like somebody wants the 5.25/3.5" disk drive unit real bad as well! :)

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby iomanoid » Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:25 am

(LOL - for a moment I thought you meant it had topped a ton!!)

That looks to be up to £39 at the moment - I'd say that's reasonable.

Hell, if I was sure it would make less of a noise than the vertical combo-jobbie I've got at the moment, I'd bid at least a couple of notches myself :roll:
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Greybeard » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:22 pm

Yes. That's more like it. It will undoubtedly "go" this time. :)

In fact, if it were a bit closer I would make a play for it myself!

But (having been baited in the narrative), I expect Jason will snap it up this time. So I'll leave it for him (Good Chap that I am)!

But meanwhile, how about this one:-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320412878055

iomanoid wrote:(LOL - for a moment I thought you meant it had topped a ton!!)

No ... but it made £ 77 though!
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby elaverick » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:55 pm

Might not be worth it just yet, but this guy is promising to list a 32016 Second Processor shortly...
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Greybeard » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:00 pm

Not to mention a Solidisk "PC" and a Torch Z80.

Pity that Almere is a bit far from Rotherham! :(

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Arcadian » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:24 pm

Greybeard wrote:No ... but it made £ 77 though!

Yeah, my max bid (or should I say, max snipe :twisted:) was £77.77 and I ended up winning it for £77.56 ... how's that for a "guestimate", eh? ;)
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby elaverick » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:00 pm

The 8086 board is up... anyone fancy taking bets on what it'll finish at (cus let's be honest it's gonna be easier and cheaper than bidding on it)

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby Greybeard » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:36 am

Oh yes!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330355115559

And I've just opened the bidding! Pity that the guy hasn't (yet?) bunged some more photos on there,though.

Now I'll need to wait six and a half days to be sniped by Dave! :(

Arcadian wrote:Bidders get excited during auctions, and are often ready to bid way more than what is rational.

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Postby iomanoid » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:29 pm

Surprised nobody on here commented on this?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0425013952

Anyone ever seen one of the other ones come up on eBay by any chance?
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