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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:15 am 

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Can't wait to hear the feedback from this - sorry I couldn't make it - other obligations... hope you're all having fun!


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It was ace.. much better than last year, will upload some pics when I get a minute :)

EDIT, pics over at Retro Software


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Jayne & I would just like to say a huge thank-you to Matt, for organising the whole event and to our own Dave M for organising the Acorn end of things. Out of seeming chaos on the Fiday emerged a gem of a 'do' and these two (and undoubtedly others) had clearly put more effort into the preparations than we could have begun to imagine. Every credit guys =D> \:D/

We had a brilliant time and it was great to finally put faces to forum names. We have a fair few pictures so I'll post them in the next day or so.

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OK, I wasn't intending to attempt to write-up this one, as I knew it was going to be big ... very big.

However, there seemed to be a general feeling at the event that someone should give it a go and, well, a few ppl pointed out that that someone should probably be me - as I as the one who wrote the most about the last event, Retro Fusion. D'oh.

I think I managed to see even less this time round, so don't take this as a definitive round-up so much, but perhaps a commentary of one man's pinball tour of the event. :)

Also note, I was introduced to /so/ many people this weekend that by the end, all the new names pushed out the old ones, so I'm hoping the myriad of other attendees will chip in with comments, names, corrections, the many omissions and generally re-write everything!

Let's start by saying that this year's Byte Back was an opportunity to learn from our experiences at last year's event. If one imagines DaveM as our general, it wouldn't be unfair to say that our army was fairly confident of storming the battlefield at Retro Fusion simply with the sheer firepower we brought, packed into an exceptionally large hired van. Those with longer memories may recall that things didn't quite go according to plan and our commander was somewhat despondent half-way through the last get-together as we were simply unable to make use of the bulk of what had been brought. However, by the time that particular skirmish drew to a close, the fires of war had been re-stoked and the battle plans were started anew ...

Following Fusion, our chief, DaveM, hooked up with Mat Corne - another attendee - and began throwing ideas around about how one could make such a weekend even better. Eventually deciding to take on the challenge, Mat and Dave began swapping contacts and chatting with Chris, Fusion-organiser, and began laying out their plans ...

All glasses raised to the pair - they poured their energies into preparation, leaving no stone unturned nor spreadsheet unwritten, as can be seen from the links already peppered throughout this forum. Congrats to Mat for pulling off such a large event on his first shot, which covered a massive range of retro computing history - check out the Byte Back website for far more info than I can list. Much kudos also to Dave who determinedly carved out pretty much the entirety of a large room for our own Acorn-related devices.

Skipping ahead to the weekend, everyone descended on a pair of halls in the depths of Longton, and a number of stalwart beebians turned up on the Friday evening to begin the unloading and setting up the stack of Acorn oddities everyone had offered to provide. I, through bad luck or laziness, depending on how you see it, was not one of them as I had to work on Friday, and had an unenviable 4 hour drive to reach the venue.

Saturday did not start well for me, as a temperamental alarm clock and a large degree of packing delayed me enough to ensure I didn't reach the venue until noon, where I had to explain to the box office staff what I'd realised two hours earlier - that my ticket was safely tucked away 200 miles away. Thankfully, my name was recognised (or it could've been the Chuckie Egg T-shirt) and I was admitted without having to pay out twice. I strode into the main hall and was immediately blown away. Gazing across the room, my first reaction was astonishment. It was huge - far bigger than even I was expecting, despite being kept in the loop over the upcoming weeks by DaveM. Seriously, anyone who was at Fusion could not help but acknowledge that it was double the size. It was undeniable - the bar dominated the room, and was fully stocked with a weekend's worth of beer on tap! Awesome.

After taking this in, I then noticed the familiar hum of collectible classic machines, many of which should, by rights, be long-dead. I couldn't list all of them, even if I wanted to, but check out David Glover's YouTube video to get an idea of the scale of things. A lot of the classics from Fusion (VirtualBoy, Vetrex, Saturn) returned and were joined by many new treats including Oric-1, Atmos, Intellivision, Turbografx-16, 3DO, Sega Model 1 Hardware ... plus a whole host of new arcade cabs.

After touring the room, which took quite a while as I kept stopping at almost every table, I had utterly failed to find any Acorn machines at all, and not a familiar face in sight. Hmm ... a puzzler. Then I espied a familiar 4 player Simpson cab in the corner. I took a closer look and listened to the group in front fiddle with the game for a short time before the monitor unceremoniously powered off, much to the moans of the attendant crowd. That /had/ to be DaveM's cab, I was certain! No other arcade cab had proved itself to be so unreliable under show conditions. :) I determinedly made another circuit of the room where I finally bumped into Greg (nee beardo, now regregex). He revealed what I'd already suspected - the mythical second room did exist! Had I not read the layout plans? errr ...

I headed next door for some Acorn goodness. It didn't take long to feel at home. As soon as I walked in, I passed Anna and Steve purveying their retro wares and waved heartily. It didn't take long to find everyone, SteveO/sorvad was there, as were Tom, Dave and Gary, our erstwhile hosting provider. I pumped hands, slapped shoulders and generally heartily halloo-ed everyone. I'd just about had time to drink in the three dedicated Retro Software beebs, the MDFS Econet networked Master 128s, Joel Rowbottom's working Domesday setup (which reliably stayed up pretty much the whole weekend - was very popular!) and the prideful sight of Acorn's earliest home computer (an Atom, with a custom CF card interface that was also available to purchase) sitting side by side with their last, a RiscPC, when Dave quickly tasked me with my first challenge. The intention was to try and sell autographed copies of the new Retro Software title, Zap!, a fantastic beeb shooter by Qwak! author, Jamie Woodhouse - but, disaster strikes! The artwork had arrived too late for Dave to get the inlays printed. I spent the next hour in true Challenge Anneka fashion, using the web, a mobile, a sat nav and the helpful locals of Longton attempting to find a printers open on a Saturday, who could print our PDFs. Sadly, my mission was abandoned in failure, as every printer in the area appeared closed and the Tesco who promised could print out colour documents, turned out to have been sorely mistaken, when their photo booth wasn't quite as flexible as they claimed. Bah.

I returned to the event, tail between my legs, and acknowledged defeat. I thanked Christopher Dewhurst, who had kindly loaned us the use of his laptop for the search, and was on hand to demonstrate his Arcade Adventure Creation Kit, complete with comprehensive manual to match the flexible engine! I shook hands with more and more ppl - I met Joel, David Glover and also Ian Wolstenholme from the BBC Micro Mailing List, and got a chance to load up some of the games installed over the nine machine econet network. DaveF, of Mountain Panic fame, finally arrived and, then, to close the Acorn Retro Fusion circle, JamesW arrived. I had hoped for a number of high fives and general back slapping between those of us who had survived last year's event, but I then realised we actually had to introduce James some of the other past-Fusion attendees, as he'd only arrived on the Sunday - while many of our number had only been able to attend the day before.

I was wandering around the room in somewhat of a daze, stopping to look at more and more things - but it wasn't long before Dave beckoned me from across the other side of the room and provided me with a second challenge with which to redeem myself. Michael and Jonathan, Repton-meisters had arrived from Leeds by train and I got to shoot the breeze with them as I drove them over to their hotel to book in. If I didn't already know it, the journey proved that these boys are somewhat out of my Repton league. :) We picked up JamesW, who had driven to another hotel to check-in and played a game of Tetris, trying to see if we could actually fit everyone into my hire car which was already packed with a huge box of random beeb gear. Of course, as soon as we arrived back at the venue, I immediately realised it would have made far more sense to drop off the box at the hotel. Oops.

Getting back, and I bumped into Dave Edwards for the first time, our Electron master. I was able to provide him with a handful of magazine disks for preservation purposes, which went down well. Myself and James also had chance to have a chat with Kenton who was on his way out the door. After identifying the avatar on my T-shirt, we had an exceptionally geeky chin-wag about Chuckie Egg and also had a look over some of his cracking bargain purchases. A good haul, by anyone's standards. :)

I got a chance to see Tom break out several of his work-in-progress disks. He had a crackin' beeb demo, akin to an Amiga scrolling demo, as well as his tunes ported direct from an Atari ST, which sounded awesome. His lightning progress on some of the RS stuff he's working on is phenomenal, as usual, and I was delighted to see the latest version of last year's WIP game was still coming along, and the beeb version is still potentially on the cards.

At some point, I stumbled across Ian W playing the simple, yellow Bat 'n' Ball BASIC game from the beeb Welcome cassette , on two machines. That's odd, I thought. On closer inspection, I discovered the genius of what he was attempting - to alter the code to allow two users to play against each other, over Econet. Essentially, an Econet-enabled Pong! Amazing, a networked-arcade game on the beeb! Such a thing has never been heard, surely?!

We were heading into Saturday evening now, and ppl's bellies began to rumble. DaveF co-ordinated again the now-annual beeb trip to a curry house, which consisted of the pair of us, plus SteveO and, new this year, JamesW. Given the fun we had with taxis last year, I offered to do the grunt work and the next hour was spent randomly driving around Stoke, in search of a suitable restaurant. The conversation spiraled around some geeky, fun and sometimes, downright bizzarre subjects as we waited for possibly the slowest service ever. We heard the latest on the first annual meet-up of the BBC Micro WAGs club (Steve and Dave's respective other halves, who'd shared their day off), and generally caught up. Some subjects cannot be printed to protect, well, DaveF, who might get in trouble over his use of Facebook if we did. On the safer side, we covered films - I repeated my Indy IV rant from last year for the benefit of James, whilst Dave hoped for good things from the new Watchmen film none of us had seen. Dave was somewhat taken aback my assertion that Stanley Kubrick was mostly overrated and only The Shining was much cop, with A Clockwork Orange and 2001 having a few interesting bits but being generally dull ... We both almost fell over in surprise, though, when Steve and James admitted to having completely missed The Shining in any form! Steve then compounded this by assuring us, there was no way he could pick up the Watchmen graphic novel Dave had recommended, because such things were under prohibition in his household!

We picked up the curry we'd promised to take back for Greg, and headed back. It was somewhat about this time that Dave started bemoaning the loss of his camera case - starting another annual tradition. Last year, it was the camera that went missing, this year it was the case. We got back to the now-quiet venue, where only the hardcore remained, looking after the kit (but no camera cases). I dropped off James to get a lift back to our hotel with DaveM and friends, whilst I offered to drop Michael and Jonathan, and Steve and DaveF back at their Holiday Inn. For no apparently good reason, we ignored Steve's comments on how the post code we were entering in my phone's SatNav app didn't sound familiar and that the journey time was a lot longer than he remembered. Of course, when we finally arrived at the Holiday Inn, it became readily apparent that Steve and Dave were booked into a completely different one, in the opposite direction from the venue than this one. :) A few more miles and SatNav proddings later and I breathed a sigh of relief and got ready to rest my weary head. Just before I left the car, though, something told me to have a look over the back-seat ... sure enough, I found SteveO's box of Quality Street that he'd won in the raffle and right in the middle of the seat, a sparkling new iPhone which had a very Footitt look about it. Quelle surprise!

Sunday ...

Thankfully, I heard no fights kicking off in the car park at 3am, as Gary Forrest had experienced the previous night. I was, instead, awakened a little after 8am by the merry tinkle of an iPhone ... After assuring the owner it was safe, I headed downstairs to meet up with the others staying in The Weathervane. More chatting with DaveM and Christopher Dewhurst ensued, and I finally got a chance to have a good old chinwag with MartinB and his delightful partner, Jayne who were just two of the ppl I'd oh-so-briefly been introduced to, the day before. Dave and Greg convinced us to grab breakfast at the nearest McDonald's and, judging from James' review of the Hungry Horse breakfast, that was not a bad idea. Myself and Chris chatted with Martin and Jayne about beeb hardware diagnosis and how we can use the website to start documenting those efforts, as well as discussing the history of The Micro User and just generally gossiping. Great stuff!

Me and Chris drove over to Byte Back in time for the 10:30 start, and things began again at a much slower pace, as the crowds had thinned out, which they tend to do on the second day. I reunited DaveF with his iPhone and humorously joked that if it wasn't stapled to him, he was unlikely to keep hold of the remains of his possessions, as this was fast becoming a habit. Given he had pretty much given up on his camera case after a few more look-rounds, it was hard to dispute. At this point, Michael and Jonathan rang to remind us they were stuck in their hotel, miles from the action, so I duly collected them so we could all get the most of the remaining time.

The morning and early afternoon allowed me to spend more time looking at some of the stuff that had been setup. Mark's retro-clinic stand was a delight and myself and Martin had an interesting chat with him about the variants of Elite that were available on the beeb - we eventually came to the conclusion that were five, including two different variants of the 6502 second processor version. Mark also showed off a classic, and working!, Acorn laptop and his fabulous refurbished beebs with CFs and GoMMCs galore ...

At around this point, the Retro Software Zap! high score competition was well underway and James was convinced he could reach 1000 and beat the best known score of 800 odd, given a few attempts. Unfortunately for him, he was shortly bested by someone who's claimed score of 1000+ was increased to well over 2000 when he was asked to repeat it under observation. Oops. Still, that's a well-earned free copy of Qwak!

I was amazed to discover that the Retro Software stand had at some point become sited next to a newly-setup Guitar Hero installation but, unlike last year, I loved it! Someone had brought along a Sony PS Guitar Hero guitar and a device/software combo called Shredz64 which had been developed to allow it to be used with a C64. The software on the C64 allowed you to strum along with classic SID tunes, from a Zelda theme to Ghostbusters. Best hardware hack I saw all day, definitely! And that's even including the fact that I proved to be spectacularly bad at it ...

I was delighted to find that Ian had been busy with the Econet whilst my back was turned and they'd successfully managed to get Cave working. It didn't stay up for long, as the Econet system in general remained stubbornly temperamental all weekend, but it looked great for as long as it was running!

This inspired me to start chatting first to Ian, then to Joel and finally to newcomer Rob from the BBC Micro Mailing List about the potential of running Cave using several instances of BeebEm emulators. The general consensus was that this should be possible, though noone had tried. One for the todo list - I'd love to see that going! Rob had brought along an A5000 which was running a Level 4 FileServer and a BBC B client which accessed the BBS on it. It was great to hear about Rob's plans to try and get BeebEm's Econet code to talk directly to an AUN device. Pure speculation at this point, but I'd love to be able to come next year and plug my laptop in to join the Econet network. :) This vies with the potential for Econet arcade games as being coolest beeb project I was introduced to this weekend. :)

At this point, we watched the charity auction and witnessed a variety of common and rare bundles get sold off to the highest bidder. The refurbished and pimped out beeb donated by retro-clinic was one of the most expensive pieces sold and was generally agreed by the rest of us as being well worth the cash!

Things began winding down as we headed towards 3pm and ppl had to start considering some of their journeys ahead. I was delighted to be able to hang around and catch a working BBC Buggy towards the end of the afternoon though, which had been in pieces just that morning. It didn't have a working light sensor, but was able to avoid obstacles and generally looked as cool as they always do!

And here's where I had to leave it ... the long trip home meant I couldn't hang on much longer, so I had to shake the hands of those still there (including the friendly chaps over at the Retro Computer Museum, who've invited us all over to them for an event in late May), and head back to the car with only one thought in my head:

... it's going to take bloody hours to write this up.

Sam.

Edit: I forgot to add, that DaveF's camera case turned up midway through Sunday afternoon - also in the back of my car. What is he like? :)



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You know, I really ought to visit these forums more often... "Last visit was: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:12 am" ...!

Excellent write up, and it was good to meet so many people, some familiar names and some not so. First time I've been to such an event in way over 20 years, and it was great fun - first time I've had that BBS running since 1989 too...

I was only able to make it yesterday (Sunday) and I don't think I got to see even a small fraction of what was there, I spent so long chatting and messing about with Econet generally. It's certainly given me some renewed enthusiasm to get things moving again with both my hardware and the Econet/AUN stuff.. Must be at over two years since I first wrote the econet code for BeebEm, and passed it over to Mike..

Edit: Over four years.. eeks..

Much kudos to everybody involved in organising this, especially Dave and Mat, and I hope to start getting out again more often!!

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Great write up Sam, made for enjoyable reading!

I had a great, great time, marred at the end by having to dash off to get my son's bandage re-dressed back home but I will definitely be there next year, and I'll pop over to the RCM day too!

Special thanks to Dave and the organisers who did a grand job :)

By the way, if anyone ended up with 2 cables, BBC->SCART and BBC->CUB, please let me know as I lost mine and I use one of them for testing my game on real hardware :(


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Great event, nice write up Sam. Wanted to talk more with the talented MartinB but somehow only managed a few mins early on. There were so many good people to yarn with, I spent most of my time chatting with various people and playing on Joels superb Domesday system, which was very reliable that weekend.

I also visited the "Dark Side" and chatted to some bloke with an Oric in the "other" room. But Dave F.'s beer was in my hand getting warm so had to cut that a bit short, plus I forgot his bag of crisps ! Not a happy bunny I think ;-)

Also was very impressed with Tom W.'s multiple parallax hardware scrolling demo which was scrolling about (correct me if I'm wrong Tom) 8 different parts fo the screen at different rates horizontally. Really good to watch.

The level 3 fileserver running from compact flash card from Retro Clinic was also very sweet and chatted with RetroClinic for a while ( and probably bored him). One thing, his CF card solution does look the dogs doo dahs, really fits in well colour and style wise with all the beeb kit. Looks like it should have been there in the 80's !

All in all a great time had by all i think.


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Also was very impressed with Tom W.'s multiple parallax hardware scrolling demo which was scrolling about (correct me if I'm wrong Tom) 8 different parts fo the screen at different rates horizontally. Really good to watch.

Bah, am I the only one not to have seen this?! You kept it quiet Tom :(

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One thing, his CF card solution does look the dogs doo dahs, really fits in well colour and style wise with all the beeb kit. Looks like it should have been there in the 80's !


Yep it looks great doesn't it. I would've bought one on the day had I had some cash money, but sadly had to wait until I got back to place an order.


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Great write up Sam! Loved the video and pics uploaded too.

Was a great weekend, if we forget the timekeeping of the venue owner - someone needs to buy him a new watch! Great fun on the Econet, relived my youth of many hours and days spent in the computer lab at school doing much hacking!

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sorvad wrote:
Also was very impressed with Tom W.'s multiple parallax hardware scrolling demo which was scrolling about (correct me if I'm wrong Tom) 8 different parts fo the screen at different rates horizontally. Really good to watch.

Bah, am I the only one not to have seen this?! You kept it quiet Tom :(


It was meant to run on my Master, which was commandeered as part of the Econet setup. I did get some time to run it on the Sunday though. I'll put it online shortly - though it only works on B-em, Beebem has some display issues.

It went down pretty well, though I had to explain to DaveM what Shadow of the Beast was (which it is based on).

I'll echo what other people are saying, it was a really good weekend and great to meet everyone! I particularly enjoyed Mark's Virtua Racing setup, though he can confirm that I was pretty crap at it.

And to join in the 'left stuff behind' trend, someone's got my ARM710 board by accident. It was in the middle of the Econet'ed beebs - if anyone's found it please let me know!


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Hiya!

Just a quickie before we start unloading our van... :-({|=

We really enjoyed ourselves and, although we were freezing cold on the Saturday, all of you guys (that we shared the Exec Suite with) made it all worth while.

We're so happy to have met some of you (Jayne, Martin, Mark, Pete (thanks for sorting out our lap!!!)...to name but a few) and we had a great laugh didn't we :D We sincerely hope to see you again. If not in "the flesh", as it were, then certainly on here!

THANK YOU's also to Dave Moore. Our little hero =D> You made us smile and cheered us up every bleedin' hour! HUGS to you mate. And, of course, to Mat - It can't be easy organizing an event like this. And then Mat's Anna who bought me (Anna) a birthday cake - Bless you! :D

Anyways...that van... :|

Later guys :D

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The artwork had arrived too late for Dave to get the inlays printed.


That'll be that Hungarian idiot. :oops:



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Naaah ... my fault for piling you up with all that other stuff (Repton ads, Tape Loaders, Disc Loaders etc etc!!) ;)

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I took a few snaps on the camera phone; they are not brilliant, but they are here for your perusal...

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Hi again.

Got a few sample pics here but we have quite a lot and some video clips - first question for anyone then - where's a good place to host them? (Credit for the pics to Jayne btw - I never seemed to find the time :wink: )

Anna & Dave : Great fun meeting you and oh how we all laughed :D Didn't know it was your birthday Anna - get Dave to buy you a birthday Beeb then, now that you're official STH members. (...and a bigger house so you can leave it all set up.) He must have loads of spare cash after Byte Back. For starters, we bought that Electron dustcover..... :wink:

Some photos then....

For the curious absentees, here's me trying to discretely warm my hands on a Beeb PSU
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Hmmm...and Jayne said she was going outside to meet some normal people.
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A world exclusive shot of "The artist formerly known as Beardo"
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In case anyone didn't know, Gary (on the right) is our genial STH and RS (etc. etc.) web host. And doesn't he look pleased about it :wink: (Super bloke btw - we talked till we dropped but I still know sod all about t'Internet) Edit by DM: And that's Jamie Woodhouse - author of Qwak and Zap - to Gary's left
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Chris trying to create some space for his Adventure Creator creation.
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Some more....

Joel having one of those doomsday Domesday moments.
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The Econet boys - each new computer on-line seemed to have a similar effect on these guys as a six-pack of Red Bull
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You might well look proud Mark, that was a mighty fine table.
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The impressive RS stand.
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MartinB wrote:
Got a few sample pics here but we have quite a lot and some video clips - first question for anyone then - where's a good place to host them? (Credit for the pics to Jayne btw - I never seemed to find the time :wink: )

Martin, I think one of the popular video sharing sites is probably your best best. There's an entry in the Retro Software FAQ which covers embedding such videos into the forums.

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I think one of the popular video sharing sites is probably your best best. There's an entry in the Retro Software FAQ which covers embedding such videos into the forums.
Ok, cheers Sam. I'll have a look and see what sort of a shambles I can create :wink:


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MartinB wrote:
...get Dave to buy you a birthday Beeb then, now that you're official STH members. (...and a bigger house so you can leave it all set up.) He must have loads of spare cash after Byte Back. For starters, we bought that Electron dustcover..... :wink:


:lol: Yeah...I was 40 on Sunday. Didn't really want to advertise it though... :lol:

We need another Byte Back so we can flog some more dustcovers. Anyone interested? :wink:

Aaaaaand we need a new wing to the house... :-

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Well done Peter. I notice you wrote that at 2.30 as well!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:57 am 
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Yeah, I didn't reach home until it was quite late ... ;)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:04 am 
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Dave Footitt wrote:
By the way, if anyone ended up with 2 cables, BBC->SCART and BBC->CUB, please let me know as I lost mine and I use one of them for testing my game on real hardware :(

I ended up a couple of CUB monitor leads down too I think, but if nobody volunteers "your" lead, mail me your address and I'll post one out.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:05 am 
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P.S. Had to make some edits to this thread ... :roll:


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I ended up a couple of CUB monitor leads down too I think, but if nobody volunteers "your" lead, mail me your address and I'll post one out.

Ahh you're a star Dave.. I'll give it a couple of days see if anything shows up. I'm quite eager to get my Beeb online though as I just bought a lovely CF card reader off Mark :)


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Dave M - I think I have gained a (longer than usual) Cub lead which must have been connected to my Cub on the RS stand. I assumed my lead was being used with the monitor so just packed the whole lot up on Sunday. Looking now though, the lead I took away with the monitor is a longer white cable with black DINs either end and I don't think I had one like that before! I have found the lead I took with me still coiled up so this one is probably not mine. Can't be sure but happy to accept it might be stolen :)

Is that maybe one of yours?

Martin

(PS - Definitely not got either of Dave F's, he described them to me on Sunday and I checked through my stuff on the day when he mentioned they were missing.)


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:17 pm 
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No probs.. hopefully got a bloke at work to make me one up (again!)

Is it 6 pin to 6 pin din? With each pin going to its corresponding one?

Sorry, I is dense :oops:


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Martin: yep, the long white cable is definitely one of mine - you might as well just keep hold of it for now, though (will reply to your PM a bit later).

DaveF: Cub leads are indeed just 1-1, 2-2 etc etc


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Thanks to everyone who was there and made Byte Back a great experience. Especially Simon B (boggyb68 on RG) who kindly gave Mike and me a lift there and back, and our resident star Dave Moore who yet again did some nifty networking and organising on a scale I cannot imagine.

The three of us met Dave, Tom Walker and Martin Barr at The Weathervane. Calling Dave's mobile over breakfast at McDonald's on the off chance only to find he was over the road and dashing off, leaving Mike to watch over my coffee and half eaten bagel. After a bit of confusion and cancelling my room wondering what on earth I was meant to be doing, we set off.

The venue was a huge and quirky live music hall with decor to match the exhibits. It certainly added to the atmosphere of the event, transporting some other attendees back in time :) There were some leaks and shudders in the squall late Saturday and I'm sure the executive suite floor was sloping long before my fourth pint. My rather impertinent comments on all this to Dave were met with a reminder of the charitable cause, so all is forgiven, though I wonder how it gets on the rest of the year.

In the main hall was indeed a serviceable bar (with feng-shui money bags festooning the back wall), a Wii console (missed at Fusion) doing its thing on stage and a not-so-serviceable food hatch; the lunch queue stretched for 40 minutes plus as the staff inside diligently prepared respectable-quality fare in spite of the equipment imposing an obvious bottleneck. The antics of all four Stigs were a welcome distraction, kudos to whoever invited the Galactic Empire for tea and photo opportunities.

The executive suite was quieter in both senses throughout the weekend. The three vendors inside will have suffered if a few visitors didn't realise it was there, though their stalls were even more impressive! As it was there wasn't room to show all the Beebs that were brought, including mine -- I'm not unhappy as it was off the plan anyway, but it would have been nice to swap high-density discs with Martin. Joel took a nice photo of us comparing notes on our HD mods. The ARM7TDMI coprocessor didn't come out either, but by all accounts there wasn't much to miss.

The ad-hoc Econet was flaky, but held up long enough to show off all the distributed action. It was unfortunate that a last blast of Teletext was marred by poor reception -- the unwieldy rabbit ears couldn't cut through all that electronic smog, otherwise Ian could have served up some Ceefax too.

The Shredz64 setup was the nicest surprise of the event. I've a soft spot for Guitar Hero/Rock Band having seen how much fun was had at Fusion, but to remake it on the C64, splice a GH guitar to it and marry it with some monster chiptunes -- awesome!

Mark's Retro Clinic layout was superb, especially when his CompactFlash-enabled Master server got patched into Econet. I bought a CF adaptor from him, for a few hours -- it had been something I'd always wanted, but then I traded up for a GoMMC to have a consistent media environment at home; Mark was visibly disappointed.

But as the crowds dwindled on the Saturday, the chill set in and the weather roused. Dave, the other diehards and I stayed around waiting to lock up. Ian W frantically debugged his NetBat without an editor. Not having my Beeb out, and worrying about my overnight bag I'd totally forgotten about anything else I wanted to do at the show, so impolitely paced around for a bit. When I finally curled up beside a warm Cub, Dave appeared from nowhere and asked me to take some photos. (Please remind me about these Dave, even though they were only taken on my phone.) When it was finally packing-up time someone's car had conked out (?) and six of us bundled into Dave's motor to go back to the Weathervane, all the more economical for us to gas ourselves with a can of Lynx under someone's foot. Sure enough, the bag and the coat I could have done with were safe and sound at the hotel.

Sunday was uneventful. Lunch was served faster; Tom W kindly gave me a Z80 copro, then Dave handed me some 'homework'. I was required to fit a babysitter ROM to Dave Edwards' Electron. I had unwisely protested the day before, only to be persuaded with "Please do it for me." -- "Alright then." At least this will be a short assignment ;) There was some to-and-froing of Simon and me waiting for each other to say our farewells before we left but it was a fantastic weekend and all the more reason to get a licence. :D

--Greg


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MartinB wrote:
Have to do another post - 5 attachments is the maximum

Just noticed this. Yes, Martin - 5 attachments per post is the limit. It's an anti-spam protection measure. Oh, and it's DaveM (with the occasional assist from me) responsible for this site / software - so bother us, if you have any questions or something goes screwy. ;) Our erstwhile hoster's talents are spent providing us with this rather spiffing environment. If they actually saw what was holding this place together underneath the covers, there might be some curses flowing!

regregex: awesome blog post. It's great to read about it from someone else's perspective ... ! Top notch.

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samwise wrote:
Yes, Martin - 5 attachments per post is the limit. It's an anti-spam protection measure.
No worries - makes sense and this place makes no claims to be a photo-album after all :). (Problem was, I kept uploading the 6th picture, apparently successfuly, but then couldn't add it to the post because it's name wasn't there :?. Getting angrier than a wasp, I eventually noticed the red small-print message saying "Sorry, but 5....." Ho Hum :) )

I shall, in due course, find an external hidey-hole for the rest of the pics and video snips...

Greg & samwise : Two excellent diaries of the weekend. Thanks for making the effort =D>

Martin


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